Twenty minutes, and you will know where that conversation actually came from. Steven Palmieri reads last year's return with you on the call, asks how the business is set up and who has been advising you, then tells you which of the moves behind a lower number were ever available to you, which ones are still open for this year, and which ones were never going to apply no matter who prepared the return. You will also hear whether your books are solid enough to plan from. Nothing gets promised about your bill. What you get is a straight read and a return you could defend.